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Hello, today I have with me myself.
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I have, at long last, decided to begin the journey of sharing my own birth stories.
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I have hesitated to do this for a while because, in my head, I thought that I needed somebody to interview me.
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However, I just realized that that was an excuse to avoid sharing my own story.
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So I've decided to accept my own challenge and share the stories that are the reason for me embarking on this journey.
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As a podcast host and birth advocate, I'm not sure really what my hang up was when it came to sharing my stories.
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I think that I wanted to be able to impart such deep wisdom and advice for new parents.
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I had such a standard that I didn't think that I could meet my own standards for sharing wisdom and advice.
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I realized that in seeking that perfection, I was holding back on sharing my story and helping others Without further ado.
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Today, I am not only sharing my birth story on my podcast for the first time, but I'm also attempting to record the podcast as a video for the first time, and I'm hoping to take the first steps to having my podcast on YouTube.
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Here we are.
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Alright, here we go.
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I've printed off the questions that I send to each guest.
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So I think I'm just going to get started with those.
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First of all, you're going to get kind of an insider view because as I read my questions, I'll share them with you.
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When I send this email to guests, I say tell your story, including the following how many pregnancies have you had?
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How many children have you had?
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Was conception easy or challenging?
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And was pregnancy easy or difficult?
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Did you have any health conditions that affected your pregnancy?
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Did you have a birth plan?
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Did your birth go as planned?
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So let's start from the beginning and I'll answer those questions and then we'll move on.
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I got married at the age of 34, so I was automatically terrified that I wouldn't be able to have kids because I knew that once I hit 35 that would be considered advanced maternal age, also known as elderly pregnancy, or I would have been an elderly primigravida, which is a horrifying term.
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Another term is geriatric pregnancy, all those things that just sound scary but don't necessarily mean anything.
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It does mean that you're past the age of 35 and statistically in human history that's when risks start to go up, essentially for complications in childbirth.
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But if you're essentially healthy, it may not mean anything.
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I remember expressing my concerns to my husband and he happened to be friends with a fertility specialist and got me on the phone with that person to have a conversation, and I shared all of the things that were scaring me, all of my fears about conception, pregnancy, birth and bringing a child into the world at the age of 35.
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My concern wasn't just my age.
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My concern was that I have asthma and I thought that that would make my pregnancy even more high risk.
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But my asthma hasn't been severe enough to really cause much of a problem and to date I have, as a labor and delivery nurse, 10 or so years later I have rarely seen asthma as a complication for pregnancy.
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The only thing that it's ever done has really been a contraindication for certain hemorrhagements, namely hemobate, which I don't like using anyway because it causes copious diarrhea, anyway.
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So our friend assured me that I didn't have a lot of relative risks and that the main risk was the age of 35 or older and that just meant that I was basically going to be followed more closely by my doctors and maternal fetal medicine specialists.
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So I got to see my baby more on ultrasound and I got to hear my baby's heart rate more when we did NSTs, which NST stands for non-stress test.
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So they listened to your baby's heart rate and analyzed your baby's heart rate while your baby is under no stress theoretically Okay.
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So I've had two pregnancies and I have two children.
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Conception for us, surprisingly was super easy.
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Funny story In 2014, my daughter was conceived during what I believe was the ALDS championships, like the very beginning of October.
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This is important because in my head I knew exactly when her due date was and when we had the first ultrasound her due date was July 1st.
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Then later on they changed the due date and I was enraged by that.
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They changed it to July 3rd.
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I knew in my heart that that was wrong and I was right because my daughter was born before July 1st, so I felt very vindicated in that.
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So anyway, like I said, conception was easy.
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I'm pretty sure we conceived within the first attempt, within a month of going off birth control, and we were thrust into the potential of parenthood shockingly quickly.
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So a lot of regrouping there.
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We thought it would take six months to a year and that we would need fertility treatments and all that fun stuff.
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So it was like, wow, okay, here we go Now.
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Pregnancy was not as easy as conception.
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I probably had low-key hyperemesis.
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Never got treated for it other than Zofran, but I was nauseous the entire pregnancy.
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I threw up the entire pregnancy Like clockwork.
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I was a night shift nurse at the time.
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Like clockwork, every morning, right before change of shift I would go running to the bathroom to throw up.
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My OB who I worked with that followed me during my pregnancy was not the same OB that delivered me, unfortunately, but he would come down.
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He worked Tuesday nights on call and so I usually worked Tuesday nights and he would come down Wednesday morning and see me running to the bathroom and he's like yep, it's that time of day, isn't it Just horrible?
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Nausea I also contracted during my entire pregnancy.
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Probably had more to do with being a night shift nurse and being on my feet all night long than anything else, but, yeah, miserable.
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I'm also 5'2 and having another human growing inside a five foot two inch frame is just a challenge.
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I felt like there wasn't space for a normal sized baby in there and I had a normal sized baby.
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I envy people that are six feet and have babies the size of mine.
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I wish I had that much space, but I did not.
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Breathing was difficult, walking was difficult.
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I had tons of round ligament pain, like I said, I contracted all the time.
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It was just, it was hard.
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I ended up developing sleep apnea.
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I was told to go get a sleep study to see if I needed to go on CPAP.
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But at the time that it was recommended I was about 36 weeks pregnant and I was like no, I'm not going to go on CPAP for the last part of my pregnancy.
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I just won't sleep.
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That's fine.
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Not sure if that was the best choice not recommending that but it was just what I wanted.
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I did not want to have to go on CPAP during my pregnancy.
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And CPAP, if you don't know, is like a pressurized breathing machine.
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It maintains a certain amount of pressure to keep your airway open.
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I can't remember what it stands for CPAP.
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Let's look that up.
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What does it mean?
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Continuous positive airway pressure.
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So it gives you a little bit of pressure constantly to prevent your airway from closing.
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And what happens?
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What happened to me is I had so much pressure on my chest and so much swelling that when I was falling asleep, everything relaxed and constricted my earway and then I would wake up when I was no longer breathing.
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It was horrible.
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I would wake up out of breath and terrified and realize that I have to, like, roll over to breathe.
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Awful, awful.
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I was dumb and scheduled the glucose tolerance test after a 12 hour shift Right around Easter.
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It was also during, so, if you don't know, easter is around the time of nurse appreciation week, and so that night at the hospital all of the nurse appreciation treats were out, which basically is candy.
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I just was eating jelly beans all night, so do not recommend eating jelly beans all night before you do your glucose tolerance test.
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I almost didn't pass, but I did, and that is just a testament to my pancreas' ability to process sugar, which I mean.
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I think my pancreas could win awards for processing sugar, but I digress.
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So, yeah, my pregnancy was challenging.
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It was uncomfortable, it wasn't fun.
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I didn't love being pregnant.
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I loved getting to know my daughter.
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During the pregnancy I felt her move.
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I remember the moment that I felt her move.
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It was about one o'clock in the morning.
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I was 13 weeks pregnant.
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I know it sounds ridiculous, but Same thing happened with my second pregnancy.
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About 13 weeks is when I felt my baby's move and it was spectacular.
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It was so amazing and I loved that part.
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I feel like I knew my children before they were born.
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I feel like finding a name for them and understanding their personalities was really easy for me.
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Bonding with them was really easy.
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But both pregnancies were very difficult.
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Let's see health conditions that affected my pregnancy.
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I didn't have any specific health conditions other than being nauseous all the time, but that's not necessarily a health condition.
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I was on Zofran for that.
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I have mixed feelings about Zofran in pregnancy but I don't know how I would have made it through without it because I was just so super nauseous.
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Other conditions during pregnancy I had an anterior placenta, which again not a condition, just part of the pregnancy.
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My daughter had a two-vessel cord, so we were followed even more closely for that.
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And then also there was follow-up with pediatric cardiology to make sure.
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We did a specific echocardiogram test in pregnancy to test for any cardiac anomalies that could have been associated with the two-vessel cord, because having a two-vessel cord increases the risk of cardiac anomalies.
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Nothing was found during pregnancy but I was followed more closely because of that.
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So during my pregnancy, to prepare for pregnancy, because I was terrified of getting a C-section, and the reason I was terrified was because I had my appendix out in the Dominican Republic when I was 21, and that was a horrific experience, basically because having my abdomen cut open was awful and, being somebody that was very physically active, that just basically took the wind out of my sails.
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I felt completely debilitated by that.
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I no longer felt that I had access to my abdominal muscles.
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Nerves didn't fire right after that, muscles didn't fire right after that.
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Nothing felt right after that, and so that experience made me not want to have any kind of abdominal surgery ever again, unless it was absolutely 100% necessary, and I wanted to make sure that it never became necessary.
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So a C-section for me was definitely not something that I wanted to pursue and I wanted to prevent.
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If I could have a safe birth without a C-section, I absolutely wanted to exhaust all options for a safe birth without a C-section.
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So in order to prepare for that, I had a friend who was a doula at the time, who's now a midwife, and she encouraged me to take a class with another midwife who taught the Bradley Method.
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So I believe I took about a 12-hour birth class.
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We went every weekend for three to four hours and we went to the group of couples and we learned how to advocate for yourself, which I'm really, really glad that I did.
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I learned about the options and the risks and benefits for interventions and tools that are used at the hospital.
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It was in New York City at the time.
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I was living in New York City and I learned about the options and hospitals and policies in the city at the time, which, if you don't know, there's not a lot of infrastructure for hospitals compared to where I was from In the Midwest.
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There's lots of spades, lots of rooms, lots of options.
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So there weren't a lot of rooms in New York City.
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A lot of people were doing home births because it's just, even if you do get to the hospital in time, there's not necessarily space for you, which was kind of my experience, but we'll get to that in a minute.
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So my birth plan was to hopefully have a natural, unmedicated birth and I was taught some positions and some coping techniques in this class in order to achieve it and I was encouraged to get a doula, which I did, and I got a doula that I aligned with that she's a fairly newish doula.
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I could afford her, which was really huge.
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Probably the number one barrier to getting a doula was price, but she was affordable and I interviewed her and she was wonderful and I aligned with her on so many different levels and we both kind of wanted to treat birth as a marathon and we trained for the marathon and we know that it's going to take a long time.
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You have to conserve your energy and you have to take everything one step at a time.
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Just really loved her values.
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And Ashley Webb she's been on my podcast.
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Love her.
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Hi Hash she was a wonderful doula, wonderful advocate, wonderful friend.
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The birth and when she had to go back to her job at the New York Stock Exchange the next morning she had a second doula that came in as a backup doula.
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So I just felt really supported by her.
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So, yes, I had a birth plan.
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I learned from the course that I took and felt like I was fully prepared.
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Most of you who have followed me and listened to my podcast know the end of the story and that I was not fully prepared.
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There's something that was missing and that was mental, emotional and mindset prep and I feel like that was lacking being able to emotionally go through some of the scenarios that you would go through during your labor and birth and some of the things that might come up for you and make it difficult for you to really advocate for yourself.
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I wasn't fully prepared for that.
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Another thing that I feel like I wasn't prepared for was or I'm not sure that I loved in my preparation was there was an emphasis on defensive advocacy.
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I'm not even sure if that's a term, but that's how I would describe it.
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It felt a lot like you're going to have to go into the hospital and defend yourself against these interventions and while that maybe true to some extent, I'm not sure if that is the mindset that was serving me the best at the time.
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I think being able to work as a team with your birth team is more important, and that's why I advocate for that now.
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So my birth plan, as I said, was a natural labor, natural childbirth.
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I didn't want an epidural, I didn't want any interventions, I wanted to labor at home as long as possible, all of those things.
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So everything started out good.
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I went with my parents to see my friend Angel in Chicago the Musical she was playing Roxy Hart, and I didn't want to miss that.
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So, 39 weeks pregnant, I went to a Broadway musical and as soon as the curtain went up, contractions started.
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I don't know if it was just the uncomfortable position that I was sitting in or what I mean.
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It probably was the fact that I was nearing my due date and was going into early labor.
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I just remember thinking, oh my goodness, first of all, I don't want to miss this.
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Where's the exit?
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And how can I position myself so that I don't break my water and squirt it all over the person in front of me?
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Those were my thoughts.
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So I believe I sat on the aisle seat because I wanted to be able to leave if necessary.
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But I was there with my parents and I just remember angling my knees toward the aisle because I really just didn't want to make a big mess on anybody if my water broke.
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And I sat through the whole show contracting, and after every contraction my daughter would just kick and kick and kick, and I'm not sure if it was the music that she loved or if it was because I was in early labor, but it does hold true today that she is definitely a singer and a dancer and maybe that was just her first introduction to Broadway.
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So made it through that show, not sure how, because I was in pain and squished into teeny tiny seats.
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I mean when I say I was afraid that my water would break on the person in front of me.
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Literally his head was almost touching my knees.
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That's how packed you are.
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If you haven't been to a Broadway show, if you haven't been to the I think it's the Ambassador Theater, where Chicago the Musical has been for like decades If you haven't been, then just trust me that you were really packed in like sardines.
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So after the show saw my friend Angel faked my way through contractions, pretended like I wasn't in early labor, got in a cab hardest well, not the hardest car drive of my life, but one of the hardest car drives of my life because I was super uncomfortable went home and just kind of while I was resting.
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It was hard to sleep that night but contractions did kind of slow down, so didn't go into the hospital, made it through the next day and then the next night I went out to dinner with my parents.
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We went to Cougans, which is no longer there, unfortunately.
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There is a documentary on Cougans restaurant in Washington Heights that was directed by Lin-Manuel Miranda before the restaurant shut down.
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It was a historic restaurant, loved it.
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It was right next to the hospital and saw a couple of friends on the way to work sitting outside eating my at the time.
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I love the steak Caesar salad there, so went out to dinner and then we walked home.
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At the time we had a dog.
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He was a 100 pound Rottweiler German shepherd mix and we took him to the dog park every night so that he could hang out with his friends and run off his energy and go for a walk and all that fun stuff.
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And I went with my dad and my husband and as we walked my dog home actually no, in the dog park, this is the first significant thing I saw my friend, Michelle, who she'll probably remember this.
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She had a dog named Dexter and we were just hanging out talking and she has a son that's close to my daughter's age, who was born several months before, and her dog was like just circling me and like doing figure eights in between my legs, wouldn't leave me alone.
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And then other dogs started coming over and one teeny tiny dog came and peed on my dress and Michelle looked at me.
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She said are you in labor?
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And I was like I don't know.
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And she was like well, if you're not, you're about to be, because dogs never act like this.
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They know what's going on.
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And she was right.
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I had been contracting for a while and things were starting to really pick up and the contractions were starting to feel different.
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For those of you that don't know, brexans, hicks contractions are kind of like just tightening of the sides of the uterus, but once you start having like real contractions, the top part of the uterus will contract and squeeze from the top down and the whole point is so that the baby will go down in your pelvis and out.
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And I started having those types of contractions and they started stopping me in my tracks and on the way home I was really really trying to work through contractions and it just it was harder and harder and harder.
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So my dad was staying at a hotel at the time in New York because they came to hang out and wait for my daughter to be born.
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She was the first grandchild and he went home that night and I tried to hide it from him, but I'm pretty sure you could tell and I went upstairs and about an hour later I started texting my doula.
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I needed to give her plenty of time to get there because, like I said, she worked at the New York Stock Exchange but she lived in Queens and so she needed to get home, get changed, get all her stuff done.
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I told her to eat and come whenever she could get there and she drove up to Washington Heights.
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Takes about an hour drive, even though New York is so close just hard to get places.
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And after texting her, I told my husband that I thought I was actually didn't tell him I was in labor.
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I told him that I needed to do laundry and I started gathering up the laundry to do it and I said, well, part of it was because I needed to clean the pee off my dress.
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And he was like oh, we'll just do it tomorrow.
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I was like no, we're not gonna be able to do it tomorrow.
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He's like what are you talking about?
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I'm tired, I'm gonna do laundry.
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And I was like nope, we're doing laundry tonight.
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I don't want this sitting overnight and we're not gonna be able to do the laundry tomorrow.
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The whole house is gonna stink.
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And he was like what are you talking about?
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I was like I'm in labor.
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He's like yeah, right, didn't believe me.
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And so I was like okay, cool, you don't believe me.
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Well, ashley's on her way over here, so get on board or don't.
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And then he started seeing me sitting on the birthing ball like hands and knees on the couch All these weird things and kind of like, trying to talk to me, and during contractions I wasn't talking.
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He was like oh my God, this is serious and I have a video of him that I filmed in between contractions and I think I'm gonna post this because it's so funny.
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But when I told him, when he finally realized and accepted that I was in labor, there's this video of him going, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, back and forth in the house.
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It's just, he's such a goofball.
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If you know him, you totally understand this.
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But yeah, it took him a minute to get on board.
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He went and he finally did do my laundry and our Jula got there, I believe around nine o'clock and so this was like between seven and nine I believe close to seven, when I started really knowing that my contractions were serious and they were about five minutes apart, and I texted her and she got there on nine and she hung out with us like all night, like literally all night.
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As soon as she got there, I asked her if she ate anything.
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She said no.
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My husband said do you want a roast beef sandwich.
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And guess what?
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She never got her roast beef sandwich.
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I didn't.
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My husband was so distracted.
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I still to this day.
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Oh, ashley, a roast beef sandwich.
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I think I might just like send her one through DoorDash or something like that.
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She doesn't even live anywhere close to me anymore, but yeah, so we labor there.
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For a while, contractions got more and more intense.
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Basically, in my brain, I fast forward from sitting on the birthing ball kneeling on the couch texting my Dula telling my husband what was going on, to being in the bathtub.
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And in New York we have these shower heads that are like in the middle of the bathtub, which is completely the most convenient thing in the world, because I just turned the shower on as hot as I could and it was basically aimed on my belly.
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And what was wonderful about the bathtub is and I didn't know, I didn't understand this fully at the time and I wish that I had taken spinning babies before.
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I don't even think that 10 or eight years ago spinning babies was a thing, but I wish that I had this information.
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But what I understand now is what was comfortable in the bathtub.
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I was laying on my back, which isn't necessarily recommended, but it isn't recommended actually.
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But that was what was comfortable for me because I wanted that hot water on my belly and I had an exercise ball Is it a Pilates ball or it's like a soft ball that has air in it and it was very squishy and it was about the size of a pumpkin and I put it behind me and leaned on it in the shower because it was waterproof, obviously, and when I leaned up against it or sorry, in the bathtub with the shower on, when I leaned up against it, my feet were able to touch the bottom of the bathtub and I'm short, so it gave me an affirm to do that and what I would do between contractions is push up from the bottom and do that.
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Basically, I was giving myself counter pressure on my pelvis.
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So because I was laying on my back and I was giving myself counter pressure from the hard bathtub bottom, it was pushing on that spot on my pelvis.
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That was painful and I labor like that for hours.
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And then finally started, my doula noticed change in the vocalization pattern that I was having and she noticed that my uterus looked lower in my pelvis and that I had some bloody show and she suggested that we go to the hospital and our plan was to call our neighbor Lori.
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She had a car that was parked right up in front of our building, which in New York is just such a hard thing to find.
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She was so excited for my daughter to be born and to this day they just love each other so much.
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And she was ready.
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She didn't care what time I called her.